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Mұxammed SALYQ, aqyn: NE ҮShІN ӨMІRGE KELGENІMDІ ANYQ BІLEMІN…

Mұxammed SALYQ, aqyn: NE ҮShІN ӨMІRGE KELGENІMDІ ANYQ BІLEMІN…
17 Eylül 2020 - 20:08 'da yuklandi va 596 marta o'qildi.

AQYN Mұxammed salyqtyң esіm soyy qazaq oqyrmanyna mәlіm. ShAYYRDYҢ JAҢAShYL JYRLARYNYҢ DҮMPUІ ӘDEBI ortag'a әredіk jetude. tug'an elіnen jyraqta jүrgen Mұxammed myrzamen «QAZAQ ӘDEBIETІ» gazetі alg'ash ret sұxbat qұryp otyr.

– Armysyz, Mұxammed Salyq myrza! Sұxbattasug'a uaqyt tauyp kelіskenіңіz үshіn raxmet aytamyz. Dәl qazіr ne jayly oylanyp otyrsyz?
– Tap qazіr eshteңe oylap otyrg'an joqpyn. Sіzdің sұraqtaryңyzdy oqudy bastadym.

– Tәuelsіzdіk alg'an jyldardan bastap, qazaq jastary arasynda kөrshіles Orta Aziya elderіnің (Өzbekstan, Qyrg'yzstan t.b.) poeziyasyn oqu jay g'ana qalypty dүnielerdің bіrі edі. Alayda soңg'y uaqyttarda sіzdің shyg'armashylyg'yңyzg'a degen qyzyg'ushylyq artyp otyr. Mұnyң syry nede?

– Өtken g'asyrdyң 70-80 jyldary jazylg'an өleңderіm poetikalyq keңіstіktі ұzaq sharlag'any sonshalyq, Tүrkіstan oqyrmandarynyң qұlag'yna jetu үshіn 45 jyldy qajet ettі. Qarapayym tүrde aytar bolsaq, tәjіribemdі tүsіnetіn jaңa ұrpaq dүniege keluі kerek edі. Өleңderіmdegі erkіndіk jәne Tүrkі әlemіnің bіrіguі jayly ideya – bіzdің dәuіrdің taqyrybyna aynaldy. Tүrkіstan jastarynyң oylary өleңderіmmen үndes. Sondyqtan da olar bүgіnde jyrlarymmen qauyshyp otyr. Bұl menі quantady.


Jәdidshіldіk bas kөtergenge deyіn, ұzaq uaqyt boyy bіzdің әdebiet (Tүrkіstan әdebietі) tүgel өrtengen baqty eske tүsіretіn. Psevdoәdebietke jol bergennen soң әdebiet өldі. Ұlttyq әdebiet, shyn mәnіnde, antiұlttyq edі. Romandar, poemalar, tom-tom өleңder basyldy, bіraq aqyn men jazushy bolmady. Sebebі olardy bіr top Stalin ideyasynyң qolshoqparlary jazyp otyrdy. Tek, 70 jyldardyң ortasynda g'ana әdebietіmіzde Sovet tynyshtyg'yn bұzatyn dauystar payda bola bastady.


– Tүrkіstan memleketterіnde jәdidshіler­den keyіn әdebiet qanshalyqty damydy bolmasa qұldyrady dep oylaysyz? Әlemdіk arenadag'y Tүrkі әdebietіnің orny jayly ne ayta alasyz? Yaki ұzaq jyldar boyy ezgіde bolg'an kіshі xalyqtardyң әdebietі – әlemdіk әdebiettің іshіnde nesіmen erekshelenedі nemese erekshelenuі tiіs?

– Jәdidshіldіk bas kөtergenge deyіn, ұzaq uaqyt boyy bіzdің әdebiet (Tүrkіstan әdebietі) tүgі qalmay өrtengen baqty eske tүsіretіn. Psevdoәdebietke jol bergennen soң әdebiet өldі. Ұlttyq әdebiet, shyn mәnіnde, antiұlttyq edі. Romandar, poemalar, tom-tom өleңder basyldy, bіraq aqyn men jazushy bolmady. Sebebі olardy bіr top Stalin ideyasynyң qolshoqparlary jazyp otyrdy. Tek, 70 jyldardyң ortasynda g'ana әdebietіmіzde Sovet tynyshtyg'yn bұzatyn dauystar payda bola bastady. Alg'ash ret Shyңg'ys Aytmatov pen Oljas Sүleymenovtyң kіtaptarynan metaforamen kөrkemdelgen ұltshyldyqty bayqadyq. Aytmatovta bұl ұlttyq erekshelіk retіnde qabyldansa, al Oljas ayqyn qarsylyq kөrsettі. Partiya liderі Qonaevtyң jarylqauy bolmag'anda, Oljas Sүleymenovtyң orys shovinizmіnің qұyynynan shyg'uy ekіtalay edі. 1976 jyly Tashkentte aspiranttar үyіnde Almatydan kelgen әldebіr orystan 25 rubl'ge Oljas Sүleymenovtyң «Aziya» kіtabyn satyp alg'anym esіmde. Ol uaqytta 25 rubl' degenіmіz aylyqtyң teң jartysyna tatityn. Sog'an qaramastan, kөptegen adamdar bұl kіtapty satyp alyp jatty. Sebebі «Aziya» – qaһarmandyqtyң belgіsі іspettes edі. Oljas bіzge tek jazug'a bolatynyn g'ana emes, sonymen qatar antisovettіk kіtapty basug'a bolatynyn da dәleldedі. Sol shaqtag'y jastardy bұl barynsha jіgerlendіrdі. Өkіnіshke qaray, soңg'y 25 jylda Tүrkіstan әdebietіn baqylay almadym. Өzge jұmystarmen qolym bosamady. Bіraq bіr nәrsenі ayta alamyn, Tәuelsіzdіk alg'annan soң bіzdің әdebiette әlem әdebietіne bәsekeles bolarlyq jaңa esіm shyqqan joq. Mұnyң sebebі jayly pіkіr aytyp, oy talastyrmaymyn, ony әdebiet synshylary anyqtay jatar.

– «Әr qalamger өzіnің belgіlі bіr dәrejede jaqsy jazatynyn bіledі». Jasyңyz, mіne, Qұdaydyң qalauymen, 70-ten asty. Әlі kүnge deyіn jazyp kelesіz. Shyg'armashylyg'yңyzdy qansha kezeңge bөlesіz?

– Jazg'an dүnielerіmdі үsh kezeңge bөlіp qarastyrug'a bolady. Bіrіnshі kezeң: 1966-1973 jyldar aralyg'ynda jazylg'an өleңder. Olardy jas kezdegі jyrlar dep sanaymyn. Ekіnshі kezeң: 1973-1986 jyldar aralyg'yndag'y өleңder. Bұl jyldary tolyg'ymen metaforistikamen әuestendіm. Jәddidshіldіktің ruxyn, olardyң erkіndіkke degen kүresіn metaforistikanyң jamylg'ysymen qayta jandandyrug'a kүsh saldym. Үshіnshі kezeң: publitsistika. 1985 jyldan bastap qazіrgі kүnge deyіn jazyp kelemіn. Өleңder sirek jazylatyn, qazіr de jazylady. Soңg'y jazylg'an өleңіm, mіne:

QAJU
Әrine, men de bіr adammyn qұsyrly,
bіraq bұl qazіrgі eң oңay sheshіmіm:
әsіlі, men degen, M. Salyq esіmdі
jetpіs jyl kүresken sog'ystyң өzіmіn.
Iә, onyң іshіnde qan aqqan kүnі-tүn,
kүnі-tүn dұshpanmen tynymsyz tіresken,
qos daңqty sardar bar –
Sabyr men Үmіtіm,
Nәpsіmmen betpe-bet ayausyz kүresken.
Belbeudің ornyna bel synyp soңynda
Ua, menің Үmіtіm, sheһit bop kettің-au,
Sabyr da іs-tүssіz jog'aldy jolyңda
solaysha, sendersіz jeңіske jettі jau.

Bіraq men bіr kүnі aynag'a qarap em,
shoshydym beyne bіr kelgendey aqyrym:
kөzіmnің aldynda tұrdy үnsіz – jaraly өң
keshegі sog'ysta jog'alg'an Sabyrym!
(aud. F.Tөltay)

VERLIBR–ӨLEҢ FORMASY RETІNDE TҮRKІGE JAҢALYQ EMES

– Tүrkі tіldes elder үshіn 60-70 jyldary өleңnің erkіn tүrі jyly qabyldanbag'any belgіlі. Sol jyldary өzbek әdebietі, әrіsі Tүrkіstan әdebietі sіzdі qalay qabyldady?

– Verlibr – өleң formasy retіnde Tүrkіge jaңalyq emes. Ata-babamyz qaldyrg'an ejelgі tastag'y kөne jazular kөbіne verlibrmen jazylg'an. Mәtіnderde verlibrlіk pafos aңg'arylady. Bіlge qag'annyң xalqyna joldag'an үndeuі өzіnshe bөlek verlibr. Mұny prozalyq tekspen salystyrug'a bolmaydy. Verlibrde әuen bar nemese boluy tiіs. Kez kelgen өleң әuendі boluy kerek. Bұl өleңdegі formalyq sharttyң eң alg'ashqy talaby. 70-jyldary verlibrdegі alg'ashqy tәjіrbielerіm terіs qabyldandy. Bіraq solay bolaryn aldyn ala bіldіm, sodan ba eken bұl soqqy salystyrmaly tүrde jeңіl tidі. Adaspadym, jazudy jalg'astyra berdіm. Әrine, Tүrkі poeziyasynyң klassikalyq formasynda jazudy da toqtatpadym. Keyіngі jyldary tolyg'ymen «despotikalyq» formag'a qayta oraldym. Өz oyymdy anyq әrі naqty bіldіru үshіn ruxym formadag'y tәrtіp pen qataңdyqty talap ettі. Bүgіn de verlibrge qarsy emespіn, bіraq klassikalyq forma janyma jaqyn.

– Әdebiet әlemіne alg'ashqy qadamdaryn jasag'an kezde M.Salyq өzіn qanday qұsqa ұqsatushy edі? Al qazіr she?

– «Ekіnshі dәrejelі qaһarman» atty өleңіm bolatyn. Sol өleңde qaһarman bүy deydі:
– Osy elder nege «Qұstay erkіnmіn» deydі?
– Sebebі kіl qasіretten biіk tұrady qұs –
Mysaly, boqtampaz adam
qұsty boqtaymyn dep өzіn boqtaydy;
boqtadyң eken dep qұs eshkіmge
өkpelemeydі.
Renjіmeydі jәne eshkіmge
dәn bermedің dep,
dәn berseң de raqmetіn
aytpaydy bұl qұs –
Sebebі kіm dәn beretіn bolsa,
qұs үshіn emes,
өzі үshіn beredі dәndі.
– Qұsty sosyn «үrkek» dep oylaydy elder,
– Joq!
Qyp-qyzyl өtіrіk!
Qұs eger үrіkken bolsa
aldag'y qauіpten qashu үshіn g'ana
үrkіp ұshady.
(aud. F.Tөltay)
Sol qұs mag'an ұqsas bolatyn. Sovet dәuіrіndegі erkіndіgіmnің beynesі іspettes edі.

– Poeziyaңyzdan Batys pen Shyg'ystyң kөrkem sintezіn kөre alamyz. Qanday aqyndar yqpal ettі? Naqty avtorlarg'a toqtala alasyz ba?

– Iә, bіzge (Sovet ұrpag'yna) Batys әdebietі erekshe әser ettі. Әser etkenі sonshalyq, menі «batysshyl» dep kіnәlady. Bұl ayyptaular oryndy bolatyn, universittegі diplomdyq jұmysym zamanaui frantsuz poeziyasy jayly edі. 1971 jyly jurnalistika fakul'tetіnің ekіnshі kurs studentі bola tұra Frants Kafkanyң (arasynda «Tүzetu koloniyasynda», «Qұbylu» syndy shyg'armalary bar) tәmsіlderі men әңgіmelerіn audardym. Bіrshama bөlіgі 14 jyldan keyіn g'ana, 1985 jyly «Kөk jұldyzy» jurnalynda jaryq kөrdі. Poeziyada frantsuz aqyny Anri Mishonyң shyg'armashylyg'yn jaqyn tұttym. Pol' Valeri men Rober Muzil'dyң esselerіne tereңіrek үңіldіm. Latyn Amerika prozasy men norvegiyalyq Edvard Munktyң kartinalaryn jaqsy kөrdіm. Mұnyң barlyg'y – Batystyq, olar bіzge әser etpey qoymady.

– Iosif Brodskiy qanday aqyn? Aralaryңyzdan qanday da bіr ұqsastyq kөre alasyz ba?

– Iosif Brodskiy өte jaqsy aqyn. Al ұqsastyqqa keler bolsaq, ekeumіz­dің aramyzdan eshqanday ұqsastyq bayqa­maymyn.

– Shyg'armashylyqpen aynalysatyn eң qolayly uaqyt taң ba әlde tүn be?

– Kөbіne taңg'y uaqytta jұmys іsteymіn. Taң mezgіlіne baylanysty aytylg'an «Shyg'yp kele jatqan kүn ұyyqtap jatqan mұsylmandy kөrmeuі tiіs» degen xadis ұnaydy. Bіraq bұl ereje emes. Keybіreuler tүnde өnіmdі jұmys jasaydy, keybіrі taңda. Әrkіmge әrqalay.

«JYLAYSYҢ – KӨZ JASYҢDY KӨRMEYDІ EShKІM»

– Otannan jyraqta өmіr sүrіp jүrgenіңіzge 26 jyl. Әrine, mұnyң өzіndіk sayasi jag'y bolg'anymen de, shyg'armashylyg'yңyzg'a qanshalyqty dәrejede әser ettі? Sүrgіnde jүrіp shyg'armashylyqpen aynalysqan qalamgerler, jәdidshіlerden keyіn sausaqpen sanarlyq, tіptі joqtyң qasy. Әdebi өmіrіңіzde osy sүrgіnnің orny qanshalyqty maңyzg'a ie?

– 27 jyldan astam uaqyt boyy Otanymnan jyraqta өmіr keshіp kelemіn. Mag'an osynday synaq bergen jәne үnemі өmіrge qauіp tөndіretіn qily kezende jyg'ylmaug'a kүsh bergen Jaratqang'a alg'ysym sheksіz. Barlyq qiyndyqqa abyroymen tөtep beruge dem berdі. Men ne үshіn өmіrge kelgenіmdі jәne ne үshіn өletіnіmdі anyq bіlemіn. Bұl өzіm үshіn үlken baqyt. Kez kelgen shyg'armashylyq osy tylsymdy bіluge qyzmet etkende g'ana mәn men mazmұng'a ie bolady. Yag'ni Blez Paskal' aytqanday, «bіz mұnda qanday biіktіkten qұlag'anymyzdy bіlu үshіn keldіk».

– Otan degenіmіz ne?

– 1973 jyly jazylg'an өleңnen mysal keltіreyіn. Sol jerde sіzdің sұrag'yңyzdyң jauaby tabylady dep oylaymyn.
Qiyn.
Otan jayly ne aytug'a bolady өzі?
Jylaysyң –kөz jasyңdy
kөrmeydі eshkіm.
Kүlesің –dauysyң eshqayda
estіlmeydі tag'y.
Sүyesің –xat jazar kүyің joq bіraq.

Solaysha, beytanys mұң g'ana
eңseңdі basqan,
beyne bіr aralg'a ұqsaytyn
beytanys bіr mұң:
osy aral mіne, sen өmіr sүrіp
otyrg'an Otanyң qazіr.
(aud. F.Tөltay)

– Ata-anaңyzdy, balalyq shag'yңyzdy oylag'an kezde esіңіzge bіrіnshі ne tүsedі?

– Sұrag'yңyzg'a 1981 jyly jazylg'an өleңіmmen jauap bereyіn. Bұl өleң bolashag'yma aldyn ala sәuegeylіk jasady deuge bolady.

ANAMEN QOShTASU
Aqyryn g'ana ag'arady basyndag'y shash,
aqyryn g'ana alystaydy odan
sol shashty sipag'an myna bіr mexriban qoldar:
aqyryn g'ana ol qoldar alystay beredі,
aqyryn g'ana jelbіrep barady, әne,
өzge bіr eldің bayrag'yna ұqsap…
(aud. F.Tөltay)

– Biyl qazaqtyң bas aqyny, Tүrkі әlemі үshіn maңyzdy tұlg'alardyң bіrі, Abay Qұnanbayұlynyң tug'anyna 175 jyl tolyp otyr. Xakіmnің jyrlarymen alg'ash ret qashan tanystyңyz?

– Өkіnіshke qaray, jas kezіmde bіzdің Nauai, Abay syndy klassikterdі jetkіlіktі tүrde tani almadym. Bүgіn de shyg'armashylyqtary jөnіndegі bіlіmіmmen maqtana almaymyn. Sondyqtan da jasandy tүrde madaqtap jatpaymyn. Tіptі olar madaqtaug'a mұqtaj emes. Olar bіzdің әdebietіmіzdің adamdyq ұstyny. Үlken qұrmetpen aldarynda basymdy iemіn.

– Jүrektі qay kezde tot basady?

– Adam jany sүyudі toqtatqan kezde.

– Sөz soңynda jas qalamgerlerge berer keңesіңіz qanday?

– Jaratushynyң aldynda jәne өz aldyңyzda әdіl bolyңyz. Eger sіz әdebiette jүrgen adam bolsaңyz, mіndettі tүrde qarapayym bolu qajet te emes, bіraq әdіl bolug'a tiіssіz. Al qalg'any Qұdaydyң sіzge bergen talantynyң mөlsherіne baylanysty.

Tүrkіstanymda gүldeytіn g'arіp ag'ashpyn…

SOҢG'Y SӘT
Rabbym, mіne, amanatyң, qabyl al –
bіr seksen tөrt santimetr denemdі
eskіrdіm dep ag'zalarym aһ ұrar
olar mәңgі qalmaydy g'oy, kөr endі!

Key bөlіgіn jog'altyppyn jolda men
tіs dep bergen іnjulerdі mysaly,
solay, Rabbym, tym өzgerdі mұndag'y өң
tіspen qosa shash da tүstі, qұsaly!

Endі oylaymyn; bәlkіm olar asyqty,
moyyn basty kөtere almay tұrg'asyn!
Bіraq qazіr moynym emes jazyqty,
auyr ұyattan iіlіp tұr bұl basym!
07.04.2020

XOREZІMІM
Kүnderіme oralam ba sende өtken,
qymbat mag'an gүlің, auaң, әr tasyң –
senі mag'an nүkte qylyp kөrsetken
jyrttym bүgіn Dүniejүzі kartasyn.
18.10.2019

***
Dәl otyz jyl bұryn mag'an bіrі kep
«otyz jyldan keyіn de endі mұңy kөp
jarymaydy Өzbekstan» dese eger,
senbes edіm aqymaqtyң jyry dep.

«Xalqyң senің shydar qazіr zorlyqqa,
kuә bolar bұdan өtken sұmdyqqa!
Ұlmen qosa nemereң de kүnі erteң
kөz jұmady shet eldegі qұldyqta»

«Qara xalqy Өzbek degen ұlystyң
Resey kezer, jayyn іzdep jұmystyң.
Tіptі өzbek bop tug'anyna ұyalyp,
«sіz» dep sөyler itіne de orystyң.»

Mұny mag'an boljasa eger bұrynda,
mұny mag'an sөylese eger bұrynda,
jұlyp alar edіm tіlіn tәuіptің,
myң tog'yz jүz seksen tog'yz jylynda!

Endі mұnda qalg'an dym joq bүlіnbey.
Bіz bұl jaydan өte almadyq sүrіnbey.
Zamanynda jog'almady zұlymdyq,
jұlynbag'an sol tәuіptің tіlіndey

JҮREK
Typ-tynysh kөl syndy dіrіldeydі denem,
jatyrmyn, mұzday jұldyzdardy
maңdayyma basyp.
Bіraq
jүrek – tіl almas bala –
typ-tynysh kөlge tynymsyz tas atyp jatyr.

JAҢBYR
Bұl jaңbyr jauady bayau
al shaxar ұyqyg'a berіk.
Kөshenі boylaydy jayau
әlі eshkіm bіlmeytіn erіk!

Aspannyң syyyna eger
bas qossa shyraqtar neshe,
jaңbyrdyң qoynyna ener
өz shamyn ұmytyp kөshe…

TUG'AN KҮN
Jylag'ym keldі, kelmedі bіraq kөz jasym,
jazylmay өleң, shabyttyң kөңіlі
tozg'asyn,
jausa da aq qar, jabylmay іzdің eshbіrі –
otyz jas emes, bұl degen menің jүz jasym.

Jausa da aq qar, jabylmay іzdің eshbіrі
өrteydі menі byltyrg'y kүydің keskіnі –
jaraday bolyp әppaq bіr dәke astynda
jyl boyy jүrgen іzderdің jatyr kөshkіnі.

IT
Qұyryg'y kesіlgen mүsәpіr it,
sag'an tek janym ashidy menің.
Xalіңe jylau үshіn
bіr maymyl kerek.
Bіraq ol da joq mұnda…
Barlyg'y xayuanattar baqshasynda deydі.
Qұyryg'y kesіlgen mүsәpіr it,
ieңnің aldynda
qay jerіndі bұlg'aңdatasyң endі?

TҮZETU
Ol, jarym tүnde kөrіnen tұryp
өz qabіr tasyna jazylg'an
kөk tіregen sөzderdі
ashuymen өshіrіp tastady.
Bұl onyң eң soңg'y tүzetuі bolatyn.

AY SӘULESІNDE
Әyelge ұqsaydy anau әppaq bұlt.
Kezіnde sүyіlgen,
sүygen әyelge,
kөңіlі degenіne jetіp
tag'dyryna riza әyelge ұqsaydy.
Dәl osy әyelge ұqsasa bұlt,
tag'dyryna riza әyelge,
onda, ay,
bұlttyң astynda jatqan ay,
әyeldің laqtyryp tastag'an aynasy,
endі eshqashan qaramaymyn dep laqtyrg'an ayna.

SӘT
Dүniege bіr sәtke bolsyn aqyldy tәrk etken adamnyң kөzіmen qarasam,
aqyldy tәrk etken adamnyң ot jang'an kөzіmen
Otyrg'an jerіmnen өre tүregelіp,
«aydan adam keldі!» dep ayqaylap jіbersem,
ag'ashtarg'a xat jazsam sosyn,
mұzg'a gүl eksem,
үy-үydі aralap adamnyң bәrіn janaza keshіne shaqyrsam,
qұrbaqanyң janaza keshі dep.
Iya,
men solay bіr sәtke bolsyn dүniege
aqyldy tәrk etken adamnyң kөzіmen qaraytyn bolsam
өzgerer me edің, aqiqat?!
1983 jyl

KEShІKKENDER
Keshіgіppіn poyyzg'a uaqytynan jaңylyp
tіlіm sөzge aynalmay qaldym sonda aһ ұryp –
soңg'y vagon balyqtay kөkjiekke sүңgіdі,
bilet qaldy qolymda, jүk te qaldy endіgі.
Jalg'yz emes ekenmіn, payda boldy bіr adam
ol da mendey keshіkken – ol da mendey qұlag'an;
kөzіmdі ashyp jұmg'ansha men bas sұqqan esіkten
kіrіp keldі myң kіsі – bәrі mendey keshіkken.
Million kіsі jinaldy bіr-aq sәtte bekette
әrbіrіnde kereksіz million jүk pen biletter.
Xalyq tұrdy tүsіnbey, basty olardy jan mұңy:
kіm kettі eken poyyzben, keshіkse eger barlyg'y?!
1985 jyl

DEU KEREK EDІ
Myna bіr ketіp bara jatqan
adamdarg'a qarap,
myna bіr ketіp bara jatqan adamdarg'a men,
men jauap beremіn deuі kerek edі bіreuі shyg'yp.
Myna bіr ketіp bara jatqan, tynymsyz ketіp bara jatqan
adamdarg'a qarap, olarg'a men jauap beremіn
men jauap beremіn deuі kerek edі bіreuі shyg'yp.
Meylі, ayqaylamay-aq qoysyn,
meylі, shyңg'yrmay-aq qoysyn,
meylі, jar salmay-aq qoysyn dүniege.
Meylі, sybyrlasyn ol,
iya,
tym bolmasa sybyrlasashy,
men jauap berem dep bіreu…
1986 jyl

G'ARІP AG'ASh
Adamdar syndy kіl dүnienі kezіp
jaza almadym men өleң jyr –
atamekennen shyqqanymdy sezіp
sөzder de qashty menen kіl.

Kөzderіme jastyң keluі үshіn –
jүregіm үshіn qonym, jay,
mұң sүygen mag'an kүn kerek, tүsіn,
aua da kerek qoңyrjay.

Ormandy, kөldі, mag'an ұsynba,
kelmeydі menің sanasqym –
men degen jalg'yz Tүrkіstanymda
gүldeytіn g'arіp ag'ashpyn…

MAQShAR KҮNІNDE
Dұg'a etemіn. Menің dұg'am –jan dұg'a:
esep kүnі mag'an qarap ylayym –
«qұlym Salix» degenіnің ornyna
«salix qұlym» dep aytsa eken
Qұdayym!

Әңgіmelesken Batyrxan SӘRSENXAN,
Fayzulla TӨLTAY

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